She felt beholden to others who also grew up. Baker responds, with a shout, Oh, s yeah. In her past attempts at collaboration in writing sessions, Baker says, shed be giving out only B-stream lyrics. BOYGENIUS ARE THINKING about promoting The Record with press conferences in major cities, partly to avoid an avalanche of interviews, but also because it sounds like a good time. OK, Seriously, What Was Frank Oceans Deal at Coachella? So, yeah, even though shes kind of this godlike writer, I think shes out of this world and deeply human., Its not infrequent for journalists to tell Bridgers how lucky she is. In the last two years, the spotlight on Bridgers has only intensified, including tight analysis of her dating life. That extends to the boygenius fan base: We have the kind of superfans that John Lennon had, but some of our relatives dont think we make any money. Options by Pedro The Lion. After that, each member went back to her individual career Baker and Dacus each released level-up third records; Bridgers collaborated with everyone from Conor Oberst to Taylor Swift, and her. That was all the money I had, so I would buy the one CD and if I didn't immediately like it I wouldn't have anything else to play. The trio put out an EP in 2018, and announced a new album this week by releasing three new songs. Weve been talking about picking a TV show, and after every show, watching one episode before bed. Weve all drunk a bottle of bourbon the night before., Two weeks into the process, they brought in Illuminati Hotties Sarah Tudzin for engineering and additional production. Dacus: We let you have food on your face. It was so cold and there were like ten people there, but when we were playing a whole bunch of people we'd never met before knew all the words to a song we had recently put out. Boygenius like to read, and I do not mean that in a casual sense. It feels like one of Tony Sopranos dreams. "Phoebe was like, 'You have . Her first official release was the single "Killer" in 2015, followed by her . That should be the headline, Dacus says. Phoebe Lucille Bridgers (born August 17, 1994) is an American indie musician from Los Angeles, California. Its something Baker, Bridgers, and Dacus have addressed in interviews over the years. Because normally if, say, Im working with Manchester Orchestra, no one wants to do any exercise. We talked about fucking astrology and anger and healthy boundaries. Except for those guys. There was a year that I didnt talk to my mom and I had a Friendsgiving, and it was so beautiful and perfect, she says. And we talked about it in the car the whole rest of the tour. 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Its a telling line for music that blazes with feeling, and is unabashed about drolly skewering and examining the male ego (see: songs about internalised notions of masculinity and lines such as And I am not an old man having an existential crisis at a Buddhist monastery writing horny poetry on a track called Leonard Cohen). (modern). And now the astrology-loving, early rising, slightly witchy 25 . Baker, 27, is pure raw-nerve-endings. Boygenius performs onstage during the 36th Tibet House benefit concert at Carnegie Hall on March 1 in New York City. Its harder to maintain, and its been an ongoing thing that requires a lot of humility., I wonder how Baker feels about fame and whether shell welcome an increase in attention after The Record. Citadel Is a $300 Million Disaster for Amazon Both say they never planned on music careers. The boys, as they call themselves, are Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus, and Julien Baker, all solo artists in their own right. Dacus and Baker met in 2016, when they played a show together in Washington, D.C. I came into the dressing room and Luce was in there, reading The Portrait of a Lady, Baker recalls. Anne-Marie: 2020 completely changed my life, Bree Runway on the first thing shed do as prime minister, Kim Petras: Becoming a meme was the proudest moment of my career, Ahead of the release of Julien Baker's third album, Little Oblivions, the singer-songwriter spoke to, All of the best-dressed men at the Met Gala 2023. Anyone who loves boygenius intensely lovesick 2018 track Me and My Dog will be even more devastated by Letter to an Old Poet, a brutally honest monologue about an all-consuming love. That song is about when someone has so much power over you, they stop being a person, she explains (while declining to say who its about). When I express this thought aloud, Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, and Lucy Dacus otherwise known as boygenius erupt with laughter. This closing track on The Record, the debut full length by the trio of Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, and Lucy Dacus also has a touch of vengeance, though not joyfully so. I ask Bridgers if she sees Taylor Swifts ability to keep her private life airtight as an example to follow. When wed all go to bed, wed text each other about ideas. Every once in a while I get somebody who is like, How does it feel to be up there? she says. Baker, 27, is standing in the sand with a hot-pink T-shirt tucked under a black sweater. The end result of all that hard work and loving s talking is already landing some of the best reviews of the year. That rush was inspired by Bridgers, when she was in a major Frank Black phase. Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker and Lucy Dacus set 'the record' straight on boygenius LP. Straight up, youre not. Her black skinny jeans are rolled above her Doc Martens. But if you can nail it, its a transcendent piece of art. During a Malibu writing trip, she went for a swim, ignoring Bridgers warning that the tide was too high. Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, and Lucy Dacus all came into boygenius with their own totally distinct styles, not to mention their own hardcore audiences, teaming up with a communal pass-the-mic . Together, they're a one-of-a-kind band powered by friendship, sick books, and sicker songs. We meet here because they make espresso tonics, Bakers favorite coffee beverage. But when she is in Philly, she keeps a sacred routine: She loves to wake up and not speak for the first couple of hours of the day. We talk about peoples disdain for what the teens are doing, Dacus says. It was the first time I had arranged chords into my own chosen phrasings and written words of my own instead of listening to someone else's songs. Jenny Offills Weather. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Boygenius was on my mind a lot, and we had been texting, like, Oh, my God, what the fuck is happening on the Earth? I just wanted to talk to my friends. It hurts me to even say that because I wish that I could in some way fulfill a reciprocal relationship with my fans, but I think the three of us feel the need to assert ourselves as individuals . Catherine Marks, whos worked with the Killers, Alanis Morissette and Foals, co-produced the album with the band. Baker, Bridgers, and Dacus could have kept charging along with their solo careers and personal ambitions. Bridgers came up with the mattress store-slash-gowns idea a few days ago, she explains afterward, clarifying theres no grander gesture there beyond a pushback to your standard musicians-try-to-look-cool shoots: I like to look a little stupid. Lying on her stomach, she gives a stare so intensely focused it suggests she would be crushingly successful in whatever field shed chosen. We have a shared experience that is not shared by a lot of other people in our lives. For Bridgers, being around the Boys means being constantly validated that my problems are real problems., It would take four years for them to cut a full-length album. Production assistance douglas stuckey and kurt lavastida. That, right there, captures the greatness of boygenius in just 36 words: Theyre the kind of songwriters wholl earnestly quote a heartbreaking truth from an old man, then turn around and gently roast him in the next line. I was in OSS a lot, says Baker out-of-school suspension. Lana Del Rey, 'A&W' Bridgers, 28, can place you in the blowout fight just as someones said something excessively mean. When their strikingly pure vocals combine in folky, elegiac harmony they are extraordinary, as on the opener, Without You Without Them, or in starker, lyrical moments , when they address love, friendship, philosophy, self-effacement. Manicure by sreynin peng at opus beauty. I got pummeled by the waves to where I couldnt keep my head up long enough to get my bearings, she says. Just think of the cover of their self-titled EP, where they sat on a couch in the same formation as Crosby, Stills, and Nash did on their debut. My embarrassing demos are, like, an 18-year-old kid who said he worked with Justin Bieber and auto-tuned me like crazy. Our interpersonal dynamics the collective, not the individual are part of the personality of the band. I had been a fan of her music through the internet, but she seemed very intimidatingly cool. I dont think that my life can change and blow up without my permission. The line Salt in my lungs recalls the Dacus-sung boygenius track Salt in the Wound, while later, a melody from Bridgers Savior Complex surfaces. Boygenius Is Bigger Than the Moment. Diary-like candour: Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus and Julien Baker, AKA Boygenius. Plus, there are dozens of episodes featuring genre-spanning discussions, debates, and explainers with Rolling Stones critics and reporters. Im unknowable in some deep way! Self-hatred is a god complex sometimes, where you think youre the most fucked-up person whos ever lived. Like The Trapeze Swinger, Leonard Cohen has no chorus just Dacus on acoustic guitar, rattling off lines both charming (You felt like an idiot adding an hour to the drive/But it gave us more time to embarrass ourselves/Telling stories we wouldnt tell anyone else) and hilarious (Leonard Cohen once said theres a crack in everything/Thats how the light gets in/And I am not an old man having an existential crisis/In a Buddhist monastery/Writing horny poetry/But I agree). They tended to play coy, and today they recite their go-to responses as the waves smack the shore: Bridgers tends to say, If it ever works out again; Baker, Probably in an undisclosed time in the future; while Dacus utters a simple, Gee, I wish!. The singer-songwriter was raised in a musical family and started playing guitar when she was just seven years old. Little Oblivions by Julien Baker, released 26 February 2021 1. We dig deep into the magic of Boygenius Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus, and Julien Baker and gently correct their facts on Leonard Cohen. The beloved indie trio is on the cover of Rolling Stone's February issue, wearing suits and staring down the camera in the same way that Nirvana did in 1994.. Theres a realm in which I feel permitted to be ambitious in this band, in a way that I cant for my own solo stuff, because its something shared with people that I love who are the greatest songwriters ever, Baker says. In 2018, singer-songwriters Julien Baker, Lucy Dacus and Phoebe Bridgers, all known for their solo acts, debuted as boygenius with their self-titled EP. Im obsessed with that format, because when its done poorly, its so shitty, Bridgers explains. Tudzin worked separately on The Record in Bob Dylans old tour bus in the yard. With a new record and a press tour around it, boygenius is squarely in the spotlight. Shut the fuck up., AFTER OUR BEACH WALK, I have lunch with boygenius at the Little Beach House in Malibu, where photos are banned. When I think about a live show, Im thinking about that., Bridgers mutters, in the gruff matter of a genius ex-con safe-breaker who swore shed given it all up but just agreed to do one last job: Stakes are so high., Adds Dacus, Those spaces, I think, are sacred.. Theyre breaking through the walls to come back up their boy. Phoebe Lucille Bridgers (born August 17, 1994) is an American singer-songwriter. You might want to turn around., Adds Baker: Dude, I was practicing radical acceptance.. Her parents divorced when she was a child, and she found solace in music. I was so nervous. The singer-songwriters Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, and Lucy Dacus have all been recipients of such buzz. On a March afternoon in a mattress store in the Uncut Gems part of Manhattan, Boygenius the potent assemblage of Julien Baker, Lucy Dacus and Phoebe Bridgers is trying on Victorian gowns. It means that her heart-on-sleeve lyrics which are forthright about addiction and depression stand out above all else. On Not Strong Enough, Dacus takes the bridge, chanting us into a meditative trance: Always an angel, never a god / Always an angel, never a god. And then Bridgers and Baker jump in, almost screaming their assent. Meeting [Lucy] in real life, I was like, Oh, God, you have no idea how familiar I feel with you, she says. I played a show in Aspen with The National when I was very young. But for The Record, they say, Interscope made the most sense. You cant have my darlings! Boygenius is an anomaly: indie-aesthetic guitar bands who sing about really sad stuff arent supposed to be buzzy major label darlings in 2023. It must have happened to me like a million times in the first year of touring. We all get the high of each other being in the front, which is so sick and has been the ethos of this band since day one.. Recorded in Memphis, TN, the record weaves together unflinching autobiography with assimilated experience and . Lucys a noticer, Bridgers says. Five years later, the powerhouse women of Boygenius masterfully recapture the same magic in their first full-length album, "The Record." Phoebe Bridgers has been in relationships with Bo Burnham (2022), Conor Oberst (2019), Emily Bannon (2018 - 2019), Marshall Vore (2015 - 2016), Ryan Adams (2014) and Leonardo Lawrence (2011 - 2014). A majority of our lunch is spent discussing literary fiction, where they ping-pong across the table with their recent reads. Shes sitting at the table in a black sweater, explaining over miso soup that shes running on just two hours of sleep from straight hangin with the Boys the night before. "I n another life we were arsonists," goes a lyric on this first album from Boygenius, the supergroup consisting of Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus - three of the most . And its like, do you not remember that you needed all those spaces? A constant stream of people march in: Makeup artists yanking roller suitcases; minders carrying organic grocery store bags; publicists tightly clutching iPhones. (Despite this, a man walks up to Bridgers, says, My girlfriend sleeps in a Phoebe Bridgers shirt, and asks for a photo anyway. I never thought that a major was what I needed or the kind of trajectory that I aspired to, explains Baker. We were living and breathing the record the entire time. But together, the boys really sing, their deep connection evident in both the music and their conversations about it. Dacus left Richmond for Philadelphia in 2019. WHEN WE MEET ON THE BEACH, boygenius can hardly believe theyre less than two months away from releasing new music. And I dont feel bad about it., Bridgers, listening carefully, says hearing you say that is helping me love myself. (Her review of War and Peace, which she read during lockdown: Its sick.) Together as boygenius, theyre like the Avengers, as their friend Hayley Williams of Paramore puts it (Williams may have crashed the boygenius photo shoot). But just on a personal level, I dont want to be pigeonholed in that. It would be more effective for a kid to look at photos of the live set or at the album credits and to understand this world is accessible to them than trying to make an explicit statement about [the band having] only queer folks., Individually, boygenius are all signed to indie labels Bridgers is on Dead Oceans, while Baker and Dacus are both on Matador. Lighting design by byron nickelberry. Boygenius is a rare collection of revered young songwriters, each with their own unique ability to make their fans cry. For a few minutes, the warm insular Boygenius embrace is extended out. The Tennessee native can count the number of times shes been to a beach on one hand, which is probably a good thing. At some point of their working relationship, Boygenius members realized one huge life-fact they all had in common, Dacus says: We all benefited from people not telling us that we were s as children. Baker and Bridgers agree, smiling, and Dacus continues: Maybe the earlier you start, the sooner you get to something that you feel, that does the trick, that you can be proud of. As Dacus recalls, Julien would often write a song, put it in the Google Drive, and just not announce that there was a new song in there. Julien Baker on befriending Phoebe Bridgers: 'She seemed very intimidatingly cool' Ahead of the release of Julien Baker's third album, Little Oblivions, the singer-songwriter spoke to GQ. Hardline, the first track on 25-year-old singer-songwriter Julien Baker's third album, Little Oblivions, is a statement of intent. I'm gonna buy that. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Ive been like a prototypical queer lady redirecting the conversation to dogs, she says. In 2019 Bridgers, spoke about how she was mistreated by. Bridgers smiles thinking about another contender. And the boys have a sinus infection. Over the past few years, each woman's highly specific take on emotionally. When Dacus and Bridgers hop on the mattress too, they accidentally send Baker careening, and cackling, onto an adjoining mattress. "There's nothing avant-garde about it," she says of Punisher, her second solo record and fourth major . Look no further than the Record track Were in Love, which symbolizes the beauty and bond of boygenius. Just immediately straight into a cultural lexicon that we share. IN ANOTHER LIFE, Dacus might be a journalist. I couldve drowned., While this was happening, Baker had a morbid thought: I was like, This is not the worst ever way to die. Its not traumatic, lonely, some sort of weird violent end or a horrible disease. Baker, Bridgers, and Dacus are all beloved solo artists, though Bridgers broke through to the music-your-dad-has-heard-of level during the pandemic with her sophomore album, Punisher (which earned her four Grammy nominations), and collaborations with Taylor Swift, McCartney, Lorde, and others (shes slated to open for Swift in the spring). I wrote a song when I was eleven or 12 called School Dayz" days with a "z". It is a moneyed and razor-sharp commitment to the bit. 11. Baker can sum up her enthusiasm with one sentence, which she says in the third person: This bitch loves a Google Drive. After Bridgers sent her demo, Baker created a folder containing several Logic demos, each titled boygenius 1, boygenius 2, boygenius 3, and so on. @phoebe bridgers. The boys. Theres something a little scary about that. I was just having a great time on the beach with my friends. Baker made chicken wings for the boys. With Boygenius, though, people are engaging not with our identities but with the thesis statement of the whole thing, Dacus says. Baker: February can weve talked about this. The new Rolling Stone . She was just very kind and warm. Bridgers has dazzling moments on The Record. The instantly relatable song became her Thunder Road. (Although she recently placed second to Bruce Springsteen on her dads Spotify Wrapped, her dad told her, You know youre my number-one songwriter and always will be.), Hayley Williams remembers how much she clung to Night Shift amid her 2017 divorce. War is bad! For the groups just-released full-length debut, The Record, it signed with the major label Interscope. Oh, wait, she says, clutching her phone. Before The Record, the album had many possible titles, all of which reflect typical boygenius humor: American Idiot, The White Album, Beach Boys, and so on. It got Oscar nominee Kristen Stewart to make a movie about the group. I feel an uncomplicated pride about it., Adds Bridgers: Were obsessed with each other. We dig deep into the magic of Boygenius Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus, and Julien Baker and gently correct their facts on Leonard Cohen, The new Rolling Stone Music Now episode explores the music of Boygenius Boygenius (from left: Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus, and Julien Baker), The Genius of Boygenius: Inside the Supergroup Saving Rock, You Are Grimes Now: Inside Musics Weird AI Future, Andor Star Diego Luna on Bold Season Two and Why Hes Done With Cassian. Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker, and Lucy Dacus are about to release The Record, their debut album as a unit and follow-up their critically-acclaimed EP. I cant be the partner that you want me to be. But also being like, Im too fucked up. Or maybe I died and Im in some kind of hazy afterlife, one where you get to hang out with the worlds most exciting indie band. Phoebe Bridgers is speaking out after she joined Mandy Moore and five other women in coming forward with allegations of harassment and emotional abuse against singer-songwriter Ryan Adams . The real-estate company that owns the studio responsible for landmark albums from Frank Sinatra to Green Day announces mass layoffs and a shift in direction. As if that wasnt enough, she tops off the track with Bridgers favorite Joan Didion quote: Was anyone ever so young?, On an uncharacteristically cloudy morning in Venice, California, I meet Baker at a coffee shop thats blasting Abbey Road on a loop. We want to hear it. And every last one of them has to squeeze, single-file, into the narrow central walk space between all of Craigs aforementioned Beds. Bridgers posted a photo of herself with hot-pink hair, sitting alongside her father and sharing headphones with him. But Hardline is different. (Also, theres discussion of the fact that Lana Del Rey also pays homage to the very same line in the very same Cohen song on her just-released track Kintsugi, as discussed on last weeks episode. It was on one of those writing trips that Leonard Cohen was born. Boygenius already landed the cover of Rolling Stone. I'll hold my hands up here. boygenius, Assemble: Julien Baker Shares New Single "Favor," Featuring Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. In 2021-22, the four-time Grammy nominee took her "Reunion Tour" to venues all over the country and lent her talent to numerous music festivals. Ill make out with yall.. Itll be the largest audience the bands ever played, and theyre terrified of messing up a song, of technical nightmares that are out of their control, of something going horribly wrong on the biggest stage. Three songwriters in their 20s Lucy Dacus, Phoebe Bridgers, and Julien Baker performed on one bill. Hair assistance by alex henrichs. Theyve expressed annoyance over the need for their gender to be remarkable and their disdain for virtue signaling being treated as symbols instead of artists. The trio is strolling along the beach with the kind of swagger the Backstreet Boys had in their Anywhere for You video. Theyre playing April 15 and 22, on the festivals Saturday nights ahead of the headliner, Blackpink, the massive K-pop girl group. For the group's just-released full-length debut, "The. [Now] thats one of my favorite songs on the record. Later, when the band listened to it together in the car, Dacus and Bridgers held hands. Writing is how I talk to myself, she says. After her career exploded with Punisher, going out in public became tougher. She was very sweet, she took me to lunch and talked to me about being kind and being a musician and life and stuff. By Rachel Syme April 1, 2023 When I write for us, it feels like a really awesome, beautiful math problem. I try to think of every detail to the point of neuroses. Ive never experienced that.. The first time you met your Boygenius band members Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. I was vegan, I didn't drink, so it was just the most basic shit ever. The album in question, The Record, more than lives up to expectations, with Rolling Stones Rob Sheffield giving it an instant classic rating. Clearly, this is a band in swaggering full bloom. Looking back on the driving incident, Dacus and Bridgers break it down to a single sentence. They were acclaimed songwriters living parallel lives, yet they sounded like one cohesive, awesome unit partly because of how much they relate to one another on a fundamental level. Then she journals, reads, or writes songs. All of a sudden, she's playing with a full band, or at least the illusion of one (Baker still played all the instruments on the record herself) and it bangs. I want to build a whole world when I make anything and I feel like youre very similar. Bridgers nods and says, Definitely. Baker lights up when she talks about her two dogs. We get love-watched., And Boygenius loves its fans right back, especially the kids. Some bands, their fanbase hate-watches them. With the attention span of being in lockdown, it was just really beautiful, she says. Theres a way to [be a fan] without filming me without my permission behind the back of my head, chasing me down the street.. Somebody found our music and cares about it! It was very gratifying to us as kids to feel that you had an impact outside your local community.